Glanced at Bowman's Christmas list. Would have been useful when I was a young graduate in my first professional job age 25. Less so when I now have a house filled with things I can't quite figure out how I managed to acquire. The dilemmas of shopping for Christmas for a man in his 40s.
The Labour takeover, eh? It will come, and it will change nothing. Is that the expectation?
One line in the above really puzzles me. In the piece about growing up as an Arab Christian, the author quoted refers to other Americans as “white”. I am also of Syrian Christian descent and grew up around immigrant elders and their first generation children as my aunts and uncles (and mother). I never remember the dominant culture being referred to as “white”, rather by their ethnic group, usually Poles, Czech, or other Eastern European, Pennsylvania Dutch, etc. this was In Allentown, Pennsylvania, a very working class, steel, car plants, and mining city. On census forms Arabs are instructed to check European as ethnic group. Those same forms require my adopted pure blooded Mayan son to check Hispanic rather than Native American as that is only for native North Americans. Very confusing.
When I was in my early 40’s, nearly 20 years ago, at a Palestinian friend’s party, a redneck neighbor casually said to the hostess “your sister married a white guy, didn’t she?”. It was the first time I thought of myself as non white. I came home and told my very pale husband “hey, I married a white guy!” It has remained a family joke ever since.
I am not saying there wasn’t prejudice for them to live with. My mother “passed” as Italian, she married an Italian and absorbed cultural ways of cooking, etc. from her early married life. I’d be interested in hearing if others consider Arabs non-white.
yeah that is interesting. I would imagine most Christian Arabs generally just identify as white, especially if growing up in a society where the race dichotomy is black or white. But I think Richard H grew up in quite a relatively Arab town, he mentioned them being a big group in schools, so that probably influence it, if your school is 20% Palestinian/Lebanese to whether you're the only one.
Anecdotally the most famous Christian Arab-Americans I can think of, Michael Anton and Vince Vaughn, are both definitely on the Right. Doesn't Vaughn always sit next to Mel Gibson at awards ceremonies in the Right-wing lepers corner?
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Glanced at Bowman's Christmas list. Would have been useful when I was a young graduate in my first professional job age 25. Less so when I now have a house filled with things I can't quite figure out how I managed to acquire. The dilemmas of shopping for Christmas for a man in his 40s.
The Labour takeover, eh? It will come, and it will change nothing. Is that the expectation?
Nothing dashes the delusions of the "both sides are equally bad" crowd quite like having the left-wing party take power.
Oh no things will definitely get worse!
One line in the above really puzzles me. In the piece about growing up as an Arab Christian, the author quoted refers to other Americans as “white”. I am also of Syrian Christian descent and grew up around immigrant elders and their first generation children as my aunts and uncles (and mother). I never remember the dominant culture being referred to as “white”, rather by their ethnic group, usually Poles, Czech, or other Eastern European, Pennsylvania Dutch, etc. this was In Allentown, Pennsylvania, a very working class, steel, car plants, and mining city. On census forms Arabs are instructed to check European as ethnic group. Those same forms require my adopted pure blooded Mayan son to check Hispanic rather than Native American as that is only for native North Americans. Very confusing.
When I was in my early 40’s, nearly 20 years ago, at a Palestinian friend’s party, a redneck neighbor casually said to the hostess “your sister married a white guy, didn’t she?”. It was the first time I thought of myself as non white. I came home and told my very pale husband “hey, I married a white guy!” It has remained a family joke ever since.
I am not saying there wasn’t prejudice for them to live with. My mother “passed” as Italian, she married an Italian and absorbed cultural ways of cooking, etc. from her early married life. I’d be interested in hearing if others consider Arabs non-white.
yeah that is interesting. I would imagine most Christian Arabs generally just identify as white, especially if growing up in a society where the race dichotomy is black or white. But I think Richard H grew up in quite a relatively Arab town, he mentioned them being a big group in schools, so that probably influence it, if your school is 20% Palestinian/Lebanese to whether you're the only one.
Anecdotally the most famous Christian Arab-Americans I can think of, Michael Anton and Vince Vaughn, are both definitely on the Right. Doesn't Vaughn always sit next to Mel Gibson at awards ceremonies in the Right-wing lepers corner?
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