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Stlrose's avatar

.....any racial disparities can only be evidence of an officer’s racism.’ It’s not just the police; the health service is riddled with this belief, while across a range of institutions discriminatory hiring policies have been implemented.....

True, and this is one of the most destructive concepts. It is a fundamental, no debate allowed, belief of the left. It's foundational to the DEI movement, and so much more.

Aidan Barrett's avatar

Nathan Cofnas traces this belief to John Locke's 1690 statement that, "Had you or I been born at the Bay of Soldania, possibly our thoughts and notions had not exceeded those brutish ones of the Hottentots that inhabit there. And had the Virginia king Apochancana been educated in England, he had been perhaps as knowing a divine, and as good a mathematician as any in it; the difference between him and a more improved Englishman lying barely in this, that the exercise of his faculties was bounded within the ways, modes, and notions of his own country, and never directed to any other or further inquiries."

JonF311's avatar

This isn't wrong though

Culture is not transmitted genetically. Though parental influences do matter for recent immigrants. However once those foreign elements recede generations in the past they don't matter. Half my ancestry comes from 19th century Germany, but there's nothing German about me.

William H Amos's avatar

I'm not so sure. The older I get the more I'm with Filmer on the Two Treatises.

The relation of 'culture' to genetics (and genetics to culture) is a funny old thing. Particularly insofar as physiological outcomes are acommmodated, mitigated or given an abstract telos through the mediation of inherited ritual and custom.

In biology I understand this field is now known as Gene-Culture Coevolution.

Famously, for instance, many East Asians are lactose intolerant - because dairy products were taboo for so long in China due to their association with Steppe Barbarians. Thus 'culture', an artefact of history, language and social practice passed down the generations asserts itself physiologically and 'genetically'.

Equally drinking culture is both cultural and genetic. Northern European drinking culture is what it is because of our inherited Alcohol Metabolism (ADH Genes).

I believe Mr West has touched on this subject before.

Where 'culture' ends and 'biology' begins is not so clear as we would like it to be.

While the above examples are largely merely trivial, much of the failed social engineering of the last 50 years has been built squarely on the back of a dogmatic cultural-genetic Lockean 'Blank Slatism'.

Sikhs, for instance, were long considered a designated Martial Race in the Raj.

Was Vikram Digwa ever going to be content as a jobbing accountant in suburban Southampton? His morbid fascination with martial arts and militaria ought to give us pause for thought.

Culture and heredity are not a duality.

Stlrose's avatar

Very good, tracing this line of thought back that far. Can you tell me where Cofnas wrote that? I would be interested to read it.

Aidan Barrett's avatar

"Globalisation makes the Right stronger, and for all that Elon’s power is troubling for democratic norms, one suspects that European politicians would like to shut down his website because it would hamper opposition to their project of social engineering. It’s also understandable why British politicians – and the general public – dislike Musk, and indeed Donald Trump. But, to paraphrase Captain Blackadder, I hardly think that we can be entirely absolved of blame on the foreign interference front. You can’t spend your political life opining about US politics and be surprised when the Great Satan takes an interest in you. You might even say that they have awakened a sleeping giant."

The dissolving of national boundaries psychologically between conservatives in different countries is indeed one of the reasons why I think it has been common to talk about "the West" as opposed to simply the USA, Great Britain, Canada, Germany, France, etc.

Aidan Barrett's avatar

"Indeed, as Ozempic’s destruction of the ‘body positivity’ movement illustrates, much of the turn from peak woke is downstream of technology, just as technology caused the Great Awokening in the first place. New forms of social media, with their conformity-inducing pressure, radicalised elite opinion in the US and reached a peak in the summer of 2020, which felt like being stuck in a global insane asylum, collective madness aggravated by the isolating effects of lockdown."

I am amazed though at how mainstream figures associated with the "dissident right" have gone since "peak woke". Figures like Steve Sailer and Curtis Yarvin certainly feel a lot less "underground" than they were in, say, 2012.

JonF311's avatar

BLM was a bunch of shameless grtifters who smuggled every leftwing cause they could into an antiracism agenda. But abusive policing is a problem,and one that victimizes everyone not just black people (at least in the US). We shouldn't turn a blind eye to that.

Ed West's avatar

that may be true, but their entire argument about disparity was BS.

I'm always cheered up when I read about a BLM activist spending their money on a luxury home or yacht. Better than spending it on race communism, and anyone who donated deserved to be swindled.

Aidan Barrett's avatar

As Michael Anton put it in his 2020 book,

"The remedy is simple: enforce civil rights laws as written—which means requiring a higher standard of proof than “disparate impact.” In a rational anti-discrimination regime designed to unify the citizenry, a plaintiff seeking redress would have to establish, with concrete evidence, that he or she personally and intentionally had been denied some benefit, or inflicted with some punishment, solely or largely because of his or her race or sex."

TRoy's avatar

Superb post. Thank you Ed.

Ed West's avatar

thank you!

Lucas's avatar

I’m not sure musk does have more reach than the old press barons. Or at least, can’t hold as much unchallenged influence. Yes, he has a big platform. But every time he says something you can just click on it and see a million people presenting counter arguments. It’s as if ever edition of the daily mail came with an enormous supplement section refuting everything it said

Ed West's avatar

he did have a huge impact in making the grooming gangs issue centre stage after years of it being well-known about but not much thought about. He was able to do this almost on a whim, while a press baron would still need some buy in from newspaper staff.

there is also only one twitter, its only rivals being Facebook and TikTok (I guess Instagram, but nothing like as political, BlueSky is pretty irrelevant), while most press barons were confined to one country (Murdoch the exception) and there were usually a few.

Lucas's avatar

Yes good points. But that phenomenon of people who get all their world view from one newspaper - which still exists - doesn’t quite apply to musk on Twitter. As the platform itself is still a lot of different voices

Aidan Barrett's avatar

"Had Community Notes existed at the time, the Ferguson shooting would not have become a cause célèbre because social media users would have seen that journalists misrepresented the incident. Today, when politicians make claims regarding disparities, everyone can freely see that they don’t understand statistics. Post-Elon, a number of typical BLM-style stories have disappeared from the media narrative thanks to technological fixes, not just Community Notes but also police bodycams."

At least they show empirical data even if it is interpreted wrong. As Hanania put it,

"The MSM keeps showing you that there are massive racial and gender disparities, and they continue to exist no matter how much effort is put towards eliminating them. This is like if Pravda kept showing you the economic data proving that capitalist countries are rich and the Soviet Union can’t produce enough grain to feed itself, but encouraged its readers not to lose faith in socialism. I think a fair observer would have to conclude that, even if this is propaganda, it is of an unusually honest kind.

If conservatives are at war with the left, then the fact that they give you the ammunition that you use to fire at them, which conservatives don’t have the industrial base to manufacture themselves, is itself impressive. Sorry, but you’re not getting that from Infowars or your favorite right-wing anon Twitter account that you think is speaking truth to power.

William H Amos's avatar

"The primary issue is not foreign interference, nor immigration specifically; both the killer and victim were products of migration..."

There is something of a false equivalence being put about here. Henry Nowak was in no wise a 'product of migration' in the same way that Vikrum Digwa is. Not if we mean modern Mass Migration and its attendant infrastructure.

As I understand it, only one of Henry's paternal grandparents was Polish born. And he was 'Old Polish' - he moved to Britain during the Second World War as a Polish emigre soldier and was forced to remain here, presumably against his will, in exile ever thereafter.

Henry's London born father was only half 'Polish' and his mother was entirely indigenous.

Henry may have inherited his paternal grandfather's surname but Henry's mother's maiden name is Lucy Ross.

The name Ross, in its Gaelic, topographical origin, has been well attested in these islands for over 900 years. In its Anglo-Norman, Kentish derivation, De Ros there are written records of the name stretching back to at least the 11th century.

That is over 35 generations.

Vikrum Digwa's father, appears to be British born but his mother, Kiran Kaur was born and raised in the Punjab and only moved to Britain, on a spousal Visa, as recently as 1995.

Henry had one Polish grandparent who was a wartime refugee. Vikram's mother and presumably all his grandparents were actually Punjabi born. And spoke Punjabi at home.

To imply that both men were equally 'products of migration' is putting it a bit strong.

Richard North's avatar

I also don't recall British politicians including Starmer complaining about the power of American social media giants Facebook, Google and Twitter, under pressure from the Biden administration, to censor evidence of massive harms from the Covid "vaccines".

Aidan Barrett's avatar

A new study around the infamous IAT has revealed that the biggest bias as actually pro-female!:

https://x.com/SteveStuWill/status/2063667300499407279

The "Women Are Wonderful" Effect strikes again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect

Little known history's avatar

Of course Tommy Robinson wasn't jailed for being a freedom fighter.

Although I do wonder why Mandelson wasn't jailed for Mortgage fraud in 2001. Did he declare his loan from Geoffrey Robinson (no relation to Tommy) to his building society?

Ed West's avatar

was this Notting Hill Gategate? I can't remember the details

Little known history's avatar

Yes, Mandelson didn't declare a loan from Geoffrey Robertson in the register of interests and had to resign.

According to this https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/jul/02/davidhencke he didn't tell his building society about it.

According to this

https://www.moneysupermarket.com/mortgages/guides/what-is-mortgage-fraud/?msockid=22e4e976b4dd69202b7afe43b5396878

That's wrong.

Although in case Mandelson's lawyers do read this - I am sure he was innocent of mortgage fraud.

Ed West's avatar

Imagine they have other things to worry about but yes likewise etc etc

Aidan Barrett's avatar

"Ship delayed by storm. STOP. Arriving at Liverpool Tuesday. STOP. END WHITE GENOCIDE – ELON. STOP"

The word "genocide" didn't even exist in the 19th Century. It was created to describe the Nazi Holocaust.

https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=genocide

Ed West's avatar

ha! good point

Ed West's avatar

STOP THE EASTERN ATROCITIES. BULGARIAN LIVES MATTER

Aidan Barrett's avatar

During the Armenian Genocide, the Russians wanted to call it a "crime against Christianity and civilization" as opposed to the other Entente Powers who called it a "crime against humanity"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1915_Triple_Entente_declaration