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Hi Ed

Thanks for remembering that day. It changed my life forever and was essentially how I lost both parents. Victims of that night but indirectly. Dad searching me and Joseph out in the running crowds after a heart illness and winding up with a stroke. Mum losing the will to live after that event and dying a few months later. The shock lives with me to this day and I can never remove images of dead kids blood or the sounds which to this day keep me awake at night.

I spent most of the mid to late nineties in France and did my university dissertation on French integration. I had a good friend wannabee boyfriend called Karim and spent months with him and his friends absorbing Algerian culture.

You are absolutely accurate about the banlieues and a total lack of integration. I would say that I never got the sense the children of the first immigrants to France felt attached to history. They were irreligious and very much wanted to be seen as French. You’re totally correct that they loved Britain. One friend told me on visiting how accepted and normal he felt here. How welcomed.

In France I recall getting on a bus with my Algerian friends laughing and enjoying ourselves. An older French woman looked at us in disgust and audibly muttered “sale árabe” at my friend. He bristled but said nothing. Her hate was palpable and he had no clue what to say or how to react.

The hatred I recall most was their hatred for Israel and Jews. Not the French they lived amongst. I have never experienced hatred like that. It was ALL they talked about Day in Day out. And America. Absolute hatred because they were seen to protect Israel.

I can never return to France after what happened. My family lived there for 15 years and loved all of it.

So much more to say but I feel sad and nostalgic writing this so will park it.

Overall I think you’re accurate in your observations but I genuinely think Jew hatred fuelled so much and Osama bin Laden attached an identity to this hatred of Israel and America is what initially drove the madness which saw them ultimately attach to faith. As though it was a gang culture. A global one in the end.

And now fuelled by americas intifada in Portland and beyond they’re inspired to attach all the hatred to history and so it goes on and on forever.

It’s a modern political drive (Britain isn’t attached to a hatred of Rome or the Saxons or French following major invasions for example).

I see your points and they do absolutely contribute but I 100% blame the American Left.

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Ivan, a Patron of Letters's avatar

Time to deploy my usual line WRT to this topic: Imagine what all this is going to be like in 2050 or so...

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