Discussion about this post

User's avatar
WJM's avatar

French is relatively easy to take to the level of basic + communication. It is very accessible to English speakers as it uses SVO as its basic structure and has few meaningful inflections in the way that German or, way more difficult, Slavic languages have (congratulations to your father, Serbo-Croat is tough). Ok, there are genders, reflexive verbs etc but that’s manageable and structurally it’s hard to think of a language closer to English (other than maybe American English) l.

I think our lack of success more to do with attitude than inherent difficulty. We don’t really make a major effort to learn in school as it’s not perceived as useful, and we do still have an attitude problem with our French cousins. And then there’s a distinct lack of intensity. Learning a language at any age as an abstract exercise (ie not in a live environment) is a difficult task that require a lot of time and effort. Our 3 or 4 periods a week just aren’t enough.

It’s also a myth that kids are language sponges. They may - likely do - pick them up faster in a playground environment but in an academic setting adults will learn faster because adults have paradigms for learning - that is that by the time you’ve reached adulthood you’re likely to know how you best learn, having sat innumerable exams, and can adapt your approach to the subject. Children don’t know how they learn and therefore can’t do that. They need constant repetition or, other than in exceptional cases, will never really learn.

Expand full comment
English Dogs's avatar

Pretty much my entire time at high school seemed like my parents and their generation saying "we had to suffer this, so will you." A teenage day care centre for generational trauma.

Interestingly, the most useful part of high school was the informal teaching, i.e., when the teachers told us something about theirs lives. I was so much more engaged learning about how adults actually lived their lives than algebra.

As a (freelance) teacher now, I often make time to share an interesting tidbit about life with my students. In fact, some of the best "lessons" I've done is when we'll break off the ostensible lesson topics and simply chat about life for a bit. It's remarkable how the whole class seems to pay attention.

Expand full comment
42 more comments...

No posts