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Madjack's avatar

What a great round up! Just returned from a delightful European trip. I heard a lot about “collective guilt”(visited Cologne, Munich, Vienna) which I find a troubling concept. My tour guide in Vienna extolled the high taxes and gently mocked concerns about immigration. I am gathering a collection of prints of the remarkable Cathedrals.

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"I wonder if the left feels intellectually exhausted because they’ve become comfortable with the idea that their opponents are morally wrong, which means that they don’t need to stress test their own arguments. Immigration is an obvious example of this, with so many arguments designed to outwit a dim racist uncle but which prove to be quite inadequate when faced with actual data about historical inflows, relative economic contribution by nationality, per capita crime rates and the literature about social capital and state vulnerability. In contrast, if your side is handicapped by moral distaste, much of it well-earned, you need to think harder to justify your argument."

Well, Nietzsche once stated (with reference to disdaining Socrates) that arguing is for weak people. Those who lack the will or (especially) power to simply command others what to do.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WC732I5len8

https://medium.com/write-a-catalyst/why-i-stopped-arguing-788383fee27d

He was kind of proto-DiAngeloan in that regard!!!

Since in the 1960s, many leftists were openly and widely regarded as degenerates, freaks, and potential communist subversives, they had to be more Socratic I think. Now, those who at least cite their ideas simply "don't argue, command ".

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